Concours d'identifications de NOMOS

NOMOS AG, de Zürich, a annoncé un concours pour l'identification de trois monnaies anciennes que ses experts n'ont pas réussi à identifier. Le concours offre des prix à ceux qui puissent indiquer des sources publiées avec des données d'identification de ces pièces.

Je vous transcrit ci-dessous cette annonce, mais les images des monnaies y n'apparaissent pas et je ne sais pas comment les insérer.

À ceux qui voudraient plus de renseignements, je suggère d'entrer en contact direct avec NOMOS pour les demander. Bonne chance! Je suis sûr qu'un membre du forum y réussira:

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NEWS FROM NOMOS: AN IDENTIFICATION CONTEST!!

Yes, it is true, most coin collectors see the distinguished numismatists with whom they deal as being, somehow, superior beings, all-knowing, wise and kind with infinite patience. Ordinary collectors and amateurs often go to favorite dealers for help in the identification of problematic coins, information on history or iconography, metrological questions or, closer to home, whether it would be better to buy their loved one a Hermes bag or use the same money to buy an EF Distater of Alexander and a high-quality knock-off bag from H&M!

But sometimes, believe it or not, even we, despite our great erudition, are stumped by a coin. Where does it come from? Who minted it? Despite delving through a myriad of references and generally pondering away, we have come up with ZERO. So we have decided to have a contest, complete with fabulous prizes, for all our friends, to see if they can identify those coins whose identity has eluded us! These coins come from a very important collection, built up over some forty years, from which an important selection will appear as a single forthcoming auction.

As for the prizes, the winner - the person who can supply a reference to some previously published work for any one, or more, of the following three problem coins - will have a choice of two terrific prizes when he or she comes to our office!

1. In a nod to his hellenic heritage, our Demetrios, dressed in formal attire, will read, dramatically in the original Koine Greek used in the great Library of Alexandria, the verses of Homer's Odyssey describing Odysseus's return: the tail wagging of the faithful dog Argus and the shooting of Penelope's pesky suitors.

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2. We will be your host at a wonderful Near Eastern meal at the Palestinian take out/restaurant around the corner where you can have a great lunch (no booze but the various Arab teas are delicious).

So here are the problem pieces:

I. The first is probably a hemiobol, which was originally acquired as an unpublished piece and was stored in the "uncertain Asia Minor" section. Could it be Western? We actually found where this coin was acquired: Hauck & Aufhäuser auction 14 of 6 October 1998, where it was described as being "uncertain western Asia Minor, c. 500 BC, and having the facing head of a Silen." Now it seems much more likely to have the head of river god - like Acheloos - than to have the facing head of a silen, and it probably dates to c. 480, or even later, rather than 500; but where is it from? It would be fun to ascribe it a western mint like Stratos in Akarnania (as HGC 4, 932 and BCD 355 ff.), but that would be going too far!!


This coin (47041) is silver, 7 mm in diameter, and weighs 0.44 g.


II. Our second coin (47110) is also silver, also probably a hemiobol, is also 7 mm in diameter and weighs 0.57 g.


This looks very "uncertain Ionian", was supposedly found in the neighborhood of Smyrna, and was originally acquired by Leo Mildenberg on 31 July 1973. Is there another one like it somewhere?


III. Our last piece is really quite something! It is probably an obol (47156) and was acquired as being "uncertain Lycian"; which I think is very unlikely.


This piece weighs 0.83 g, is 11.5 mm in diameter and has a die axis of 4. It reminds us of Cilicia and Cyprus, but what do you think??

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Well, that's it for today! Now it is up to you to identify these three beauties!!

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Remember, if you have any questions or numismatic problems, or have coins you want to buy, sell or consign, let us know.

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Nomos AG

Dr. Alan S. Walker

Dimitrios Gerothanasis M.A.

Johannes Stelzhammer M.A.


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auf der mauer 9
ch-8001 zürich
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phone +41 44 250 51 80

Tu aurais les images ?

Les images sont dans l'e-mail original de NOMOS. Il ne s'agit pas d'un "attachment" dont je pourrais envoyer l'URL. J'en ai fait un copier/coller pour envoyer au forum, mais je ne l'ai pas archivé. C'est pourquoi je vous suggère de contacter NOMOS directement pour demander plus de renseignements.

Merci Emblemiste ...!!!

Au vu des simples descriptions , et de la taille réduite et des types de ces monnaies, je pense que ce n'est ni gagné d'avance , ni une partie de plaisir ....      

Il faudra en plus être "équipé " en littérature numismatique grecque , et à mon avis aller chercher dans les profondeurs des collections des musées , pour essayer de trouver des refs ...,...... où pas .....!!!    

On tombe toujours dans les mêmes problématiques, les petites divisions sont souvent moins bien conservées et lisibles (ce sont elles qui lui ont le plus été utilisées ....), et de plus étant moins " spectaculaires" , elles sont moins étudiées que les gros modules ........

Allez BRUTUS ! Bon courage !  Je sais que tu es capable de vaincre ce concours-là. La France vers la Suisse.  Au mois, cherche à obtenir les images.

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Est-ce que le concours est fini ?

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La plupart de ces monnaies ioniennes n'ont pas d'attribution précise. Ils ne prennent pas beaucoup de risques.